Joe Hodas and Paul Armentano discuss the evolution of cannabis policy and the role of the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML). Paul shares his 31-year journey in advocating for cannabis legalization, noting the significant shift in public opinion and policy changes. Paul highlights the decrease in marijuana-related arrests from a million annually to around 225,000, and the expansion of medical and recreational cannabis access across the United States. Joe expresses interest in Paul's background and the progression of cannabis policy as they dive deeper into polling results and data in future discussions.